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Wildlifewriter
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Earthcache ethics Reply with quote

Here's another procedural quandry...

(What an activity geocaching is for quandries - when I played rugby, the only ethical dilemma that ever arose was whether to kick an opponent, or punch him.)

... it's about my earthcache at the Giant's Causeway. I've had a find claim by e-mail from a team of very well-known European cachers, giving the correct answer to the verification thing. They also sent in a couple of photos.

I have evidence that they did not visit the site on the date claimed, but in December of last year - many months before the earthcache was established. (The causeway's been there for 30,000,000 years.)

What's to be done, my geocaching chums? Query the claim? Delete the log? Let the hare sit, and say nothing?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can anyone find a cache before it has been placed?? Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a find, my earthcache Arthur's Seat , which has been around for about the same amount of time, had people going back to it to claim the find. I only allowed one person to put their claim 9in before the cache placement date, and that was because he helped me out a lot, by deleting logs, and asking for a complete thread on GC.com to be deleted, just so that the answer dis-sapeared.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have received a satisfactory explanation from the team involved, so I will allow their log to go through, on this occasion.

If I'd known there was so much admin involved in earthcaches, I'd never have set one up...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wildlifewriter wrote:
I have received a satisfactory explanation from the team involved, so I will allow their log to go through, on this occasion.

-Wlw.


What was it? - the explanation. ( Know what the Giant's Causway is)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Twigger wrote:
What was it? - the explanation. ( Know what the Giant's Causway is)

I won't weary you with the whole story. There were not one, but two visiting cache teams involved - and it's about who had the gps on which date and who didn't have the gps on a different date and which photos where taken on wh...

... life's too short, to be honest. (At least, mine is.)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says

"How to claim a find: Near to the Grand Causeway, you will find an unusual feature at N55º 14.402 W006º 30.495 (WGS84) Identify this, and discover its “name” in the mythology of the Causeway. Send an e-mail with this information. Please do not reveal the answer in your logs or photographs."

Maybe add "You need to have visited the Giants Causeway since 20th June 2005 to claim the find "

It look's fantastic and I would love to visit the area.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember visiting the Giants causeway and it is a spectacular place I spent quite a while searching for a real cache that was suposed to be along the top path with no joy http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=5e50faa7-3576-4c66-afff-698720bfc0fb I dont think this allows me to log a current cache and wouldnt dream of trying
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deego wrote:
Maybe add "You need to have visited the Giants Causeway since 20th June 2005 to claim the find "

It look's fantastic and I would love to visit the area.


It is a fantastic place. I whiled away two hours at least, walking around being gobsmacked by all of the rock formations. It's not just the actual causeway (as one assumes) but the whole of the cliff coastline that is amazing, too.

It's worth the effort Paul, to have placed Ireland's first Earthcache and a cracker one at that.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have friends in Balymena area so I hope to get over again sometime in the not too distant future and The causeway will be a definite for a revisit along with a trip to carrick a reed (sp?) as I enjoyed it a lot too.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that a "poor mans" version of the causeway can been seen where the same rock formation comes ashore in south west Scotland, does anybody know where it is or if it is worth a visit ?.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Staffa, isnt it?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mckryton wrote:
I believe that a "poor mans" version of the causeway can been seen where the same rock formation comes ashore in south west Scotland, does anybody know where it is or if it is worth a visit ?.


The location where similar geological formations are found is the often mentioned, but seldom visited Fingal's Cave on Staffa. As with the Giants Causeway, Fingal's cave was formed when Tertiary basalt lava flows cooled to form hexagonal columns. During Victorian times up to 300 visitors a day visited the island to view these amazing formations. They travelled by paddle steamers from nearby islands.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mckryton wrote:
I believe that a "poor mans" version of the causeway can been seen where the same rock formation comes ashore in south west Scotland, does anybody know where it is or if it is worth a visit ?.


err...this is definately a Poor Man's Giants Causeway
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fingal's cave has been on a couple of TV programmes lately, one was about art, a famous artist had drawn it, and the other was about music, yet again don't know who, but a famous composer had composed in the cave. Surprised
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