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Billy Twigger
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Mystery PQ Reply with quote

I just received a PQ and along with the usual .gpx file was a strange new waypoint file.

The accompanying email said:
201710-wpts.gpx: This additional GPX file contains supporting waypoints for your Pocket Query

Whats that all about then? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly due to the fact that as a cache owner you can add additional waypoints to your cache, such as parking or intermediate multi cache co-ords.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A-ha!

Does this look familliar to you?



This is what I get when I download the additional file to Memory Map
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it does, and in your opinion is it worth the effort updating my cache pages?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand how you have part of the waypoints as listed RYKC, as this is akin to my CITO event. It also won't allow you to have the same prefix, hence HA - HH, or the same lookup code, David Bellamy's World is listed from PARTA - PARTF and EAST.

Have you changed any of the codes, otherwise it looks as though it's all tits up, here is David Bellamy's World so that you can do a cross reference, as I am confused to the waymarks being named wrong? Puzzled Puzzled Puzzled
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's something horribly wrong there. BT: was the file passed through GSAK (or anything else) before you plotted it?

Here's what the GPX file, directly from gc.com, should look like...



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - all my gpx files open up in gsak, so I looked at it there first before exporting it to MMap

Did I do something wrong? Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Twigger wrote:
Did I do something wrong? Embarassed

I dunno - what did you do?

Seriously, though... it could be another bug in GSAK - traditionally, there are rather a lot of these which is one reason why I don't use it much.

However, testing the data in question (just now) seems to show that GSAK handles the "extra" waypoints just the way it always did - as extra waypoints.

In CSV format, there's no bum formatting or anything else I can see which would account for the oddly mixed-up waypoint names. And the position info (on your map, above) is correct.

I am baffled.

-Wlw
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this thread in the UK Forum. That'll answer your questions Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haggis Hunter wrote:
I don't understand how you have part of the waypoints as listed RYKC, as this is akin to my CITO event. It also won't allow you to have the same prefix, hence HA - HH, or the same lookup code, David Bellamy's World is listed from PARTA - PARTF and EAST.

Have you changed any of the codes, otherwise it looks as though it's all tits up, here is David Bellamy's World so that you can do a cross reference, as I am confused to the waymarks being named wrong? Puzzled Puzzled Puzzled

It's either a bug in Groundspeak with the new system or else a bug with GSAK as it's not yet set up to deal properly with the additional waypoints. I think it's the former and of course with it now being the weekend it'll stay broken until Monday evening Rolling Eyes

In the meantime I suggest loading the waypoints gpx into a seperate database or else not loading them at all until the problem goes away
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wildlifewriter wrote:
Here's what the GPX file, directly from gc.com, should look like...



-Wlw


I'm rather pleased that the last 4 digits/symbols came up as the GC waypoint, but do you know if this was done automatically, as it doesn't allow you to do this whilst making them, well it does for the first one, then not the rest. All those waypoints start with the correct HA - HF but should read PartA - PartF at the end, ie HAPARTA. (I know that is 7 letters but it allows for up to 8 in total).

It's looks to me as though Groundspeak change the waypoint code part to GC.com code, and leave the prefix code as you make it.

Does this all make sense? Difficult to explain!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just got my Edinburgh PQ through, all the additioanl waypoints when opened in GSAK finish with RYKC (That's the CITO event). It just so happens that the first waypoint is the actual CITO pubs waypoint, it looks as though GSAK is forcing the changes to that waypoint.

How did yours come up correct Wlw?

Here's what it looks like in GSAK, this is all the current additional WP's for Edinburgh.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the script for mine:

SCRIPT

I haven't the foggiest idea what it all means, but these codes are in there.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haggis Hunter wrote:
It just so happens that the first waypoint is the actual CITO pubs waypoint, it looks as though GSAK is forcing the changes to that waypoint.

How did yours come up correct Wlw?

Because I created the entries in GSAK from the GPX file downloaded from the cache page - not from a PQ file.

Now we're getting somewhere...

The problem is with the PQs - or how GSAK handles the PQs - because they're two different files. HH: Please e-mail me the original content of your PQ (both files), so that I can examine its data structure.

The data sample from BT above looks very strange. I'm doing a line-by-line check of it now.

-Wlw
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dino wrote:
Check out this thread in the UK Forum. That'll answer your questions Cool

It looks like we are further on with this problem than they are.

-Wlw
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